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of firearms and they were arrested only after the murder of border patrol agent brian terry. it was almost -- you look at the emails and look at the track record. it really shows that they were in a panic mode and had to have something to prove for this operation considering it had lethal results and still does. we have seen at least 400 tets in mexico as a result of fast and furious. in 2012, we saw the death of a mexican beauty queen. we recently saw about a month ago the murders of a police chief with fast and furious weapons. and so this is something that's continued. these are people who are brazen and willing to take on not only just regular civilians but public officials down in mexico. >> senator grassley we know has been trying to get information about this fast and furious going back and forth with the department of justice on this. has he gotten anywhere and any more information? >> he has not gotten -- i mean, senator grassley has done an excellent job of investigating. the department of justice has been anything but cooperative. grassley sent a letter to the department of just
in december of 2010, of border agent brian terry. he had been shot and killed by illegal immigrants who were smuggling drugs into the country and now, even more news on "fast & furious" today, jon. jon: keep us updated. steve centanni in washington, thanks. jenna: a big story there. meantime army private bradley manning apologizing during his sentencing hearing this week for leaking classified state department documents to wikileaks. his military trial coupled with edward snowden's revelations over top secret nsa surveillance programs raising questions about motives of different so-called hackers. in the world of cybersecurity, there are two types of hackers. on one hand you have the so-called good guys. known as the white hats, who have the goal to find holes in the system so they can be fixed and not exploited. on the other hand there are the black hats, the hackers who take advantage of those weaknesses and those quite frankly are the bad guys. we have a columnist and former publisher of "the wall street journal.". gordon, one of the things that came up in the conversations about these st
that were being used i drug cartels. there has to be an investigation brian terry was shot and killed by an armed mexican. and a rancher from southern arizona was shot and killed by armed individuals which we assume were people who were members of the drug cartels. this is a dangerous place. when we have these armed drug cartels, moving drugs, most rugs are going across the border, coming across our border in arizona, you have guys on top of mountain tops, guiding the cartels, through tucson and into phoenix, and throughout the country. we have a serious problem. it requires us to have a national discussion because the problem, mainly, is the drug cartels and the violent side of is a demand for drugs in the united states of america. whether they have a submarine, like i have seen in colombia. it is a violent place when you have armed members bringing drugs across the border into our country. i do not excuse any action that took place
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